John Thurot 134
- Born: 1755, Dumfries, Scotland
- Marriage (1): Isabel Heylen on 15 Mar 1781 in Dumfries, Scotland 294
- Marriage (2): Agnes Locke before 1787 in Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
- Died: 12 Jan 1833, Gateside Cotage, Closeburn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland aged 78
- Buried: 15 Jan 1833, Nimbelly, Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
At this particluar point, the tree gets fuzzy - and there are discrepancies in the information posted online. I have left it here for the sake of future research, and curiosity - with the following research notes:
First, I find no concrete evidence of this John Thurot being the son of Francois Thurrotte. The following recount was found at www.rootsweb.com in the Farrell-L Archives: Capt. Farrell entered France 1692 with James II, stayed at St. Germaine, married an M. Thurot. They had a child Jean Farrell. Both parents died, and Jean, the child, raised by the Thurot family and eventually changed his last name to Thurot. Jean Thurot married M.Picard in Boulougne, France. The child from this marriage was Francois Thurot, the famous Manx smuggler and later captain in the French Navy who died in 1760. He had two children, one of whom was John Thurot who married Isabel Heylen in 1781, had child James Thurot b.1784 - came to New Brunswick, Canada in 1826.
In addition, I have not been able to find any evidence that Isabel Heylen and Agnes Locke were married to the same John Thurot.
This is an excerpt from the book "West Branch Days"
"John Thurrott came from Newton Stewart, Scotland, as a boy of twelve with his father, James Thurrott, a sister, Agnes and her nursemaid. John's and Agnes's mother, Jane Cowan, remained in Scotland. An unconfirmed source has the Thurrott's coming to Scotland from France with Mary Queen of Scots, Count Thorrotte being one of her retainers. Although the name is variously spelled "Thorrott" and "Thorrot", if there ever was a final "e", James seems to have dropped it in crossing the Atlantic. James took up land on the South Branch and reared a second family. For some strange reason, James also named a son in his second family "John" (John Doherty Thurrott). There was also, in the second family, a daughter "Agnes" and with both wives being named "Jane" it is no wonder that researchers have followed many false leads."
I never could find any record of a Jane Cowan and James Thurrott, but through other trees, I did find that some people had James' first wife as Jean Cummin(s). James' son, John, who he brought with him from Scotland, died in 1874 and I have a photo of his grave/headstone that says he was 63 years old when he died. That makes him born about 1811 (the newspaper record has him as having been 62 years old - so birth maybe in 1812). I have the following birth records from Scotlands People that have James Thurot and Jean Cummins, with children John and Agnes born the same years and in the same place where my John Thurrott comes from:
Date Surname Forename Father Mother Mother Surname No. Sex ParishCity / County
06/10/1820 THORRAT AGNES JAMES THORRAT / JEAN CUMMING FR210 F Rerrick KIRKCUDBRIGHT
09/01/1825 THORRAT JAMES JAMES THORRAT / JEAN CUMMING FR219 M Rerrick KIRKCUDBRIGHT
07/12/1807 THUROT JANET JAMES THUROT / JEAN CUMMIN FR170 F Colvend KIRKCUDBRIGHT 31/01/1812 THUROT JOHN JAMES THUROT / JEAN CUMMIN FR173 M Colvend KIRKCUDBRIGHT
I have no idea what happened to Jean Cummin and the other children, James and Janet, but James Sr. definitely did marry again in New Brunswick - unknown if he was a bigamist or not - I've never found a death record for Jean Cummin to know for sure. I would have to say that he was not, because James lived until at least 1861 - he is on the 1861 Kent County census, and his daughter-in-law being Mary Morton, there were a lot of letters between the Morton and MacMichael families in Scotland and New Brunswick, so if Jean Cummin was still alive, I'm sure she would have found out. The other thing that is a little off, is that the excerpt says they came over when son, John, was twelve. If he was born in 1811, that means they arrived about 1823/1824. There was a son born in 1825 in Scotland to James and Jean, so that can't be quite right. But then, on one of the census records, I saw an arrival date of 1826, so that makes perfect sense with the above noted birth records.
John married Isabel Heylen on 15 Mar 1781 in Dumfries, Scotland.294 (Isabel Heylen was born about 1760 in Scotland.)
John next married Agnes Locke, daughter of John Locke and Unknown, before 1787 in Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. (Agnes Locke was born on 19 Jul 1767 in Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland and died on 1 Jul 1833 in Nimbelly, Kirkbean, Kirkcudbright, Scotland.)